Interesting news just breaking - "European Court: No Crucifixes in Italian Schools" - from the AP. Part of coming to Italy to live was knowing that the church has a very large presence in every day life (or at least has the appearance of). While we are pretty classic non-believers, and appreciate the American concept of the separation of church and state, I also realized that was not the case here, but I didn't have an issue with it in the kids schools, etc. (religion class is an elective) like the family in the story does. Anyway, quite an interesting development - now let's see if Italy will comply (and maybe take the crucifixes out of the hospitals to boot!).